Re: binaries not stripped in NetBSD 2.0?

From: Karsten Kruse (tecneeq_at_gmx.net)
Date: 12/13/04 

Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:19:12 +0100

Igor Sobrado wrote:
> Karsten Kruse <tecneeq@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>>I agree. You should write a bugreport with send-pr(1) if this is not
>>mentioned before. Check it here:
>>http://www.netbsd.org/Misc/query-pr.html#search
>
>
> Hi Karsten!
>
> James Chacon gave us a very good feedback on this issue. Extra bits
> are not debugging information but symbol information. It is useful
> for tracing binaries and does not increase the size of the operating
> system a lot.
>
> This is my reply to his comment about the PR. I will copy the
> email I sent here, because latest replies to other PRs never arrived
> to the PRs database (an issue with my MUA, nmh??? Who knows!)
>
> -------------------
> Comments: In-reply-to James Chacon <jmc@NetBSD.org>
> message dated "Thu, 09 Dec 2004 10:21:36 -0600."
>
>
>>On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 07:21:00AM +0000, igor@string1.ciencias.uniovi.es wrote:
>>
>>The file don't have debugging information in them (they aren't built w. -g).
>>
>>All stripping will do at this point is remove the rest of the symbol
>>information which makes getting stack traces from potential core dumps fairly
>>useless. It's adding no real overhead to the system and retaining that
>>symbol data is still useful. It's not the same as "debugging information".
>
>
> Hi James!
>
> I was not aware about this fact, I did not run gdb(1) on them. As
> symbol information was missing in earlier releases, I supposed it
> was a mistake on the compilation process.
>
> Now, it is obvious to me that the symbol information will help users
> providing higher quality feedback on the operating system errors.
> I am glad to see that this feature is available. I hope that this
> information will help improving the operating system quality
> even more!
>
> Please, close the PR. Nice to know that those extra bits are
> a feature, and not a mistake. Indeed, there is a big difference
> in providing symbols for support tracing binaries and the full
> source code for debugging.
>
> Cheers,
> Igor.

Right, i should have tested it before:

karsten@uberhost:~> cp /bin/sh sh ; du sh ; strip --strip-debug sh ; du sh

288 sh
288 sh

Karsten 

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