Re: Apache + tomcat + openbsd
From: clvrmnky (clvrmnky-uunet_at_coldmail.com.invalid)
Date: 06/24/04
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:38:46 -0400
On 24/06/2004 1:49 PM, jpd wrote:
> On 2004-06-24, clvrmnky <clvrmnky-uunet@coldmail.com.invalid> wrote:
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>>On 24/06/2004 3:22 AM, Donald wrote:
>>If you just want to fool around with this stuff, go ahead. Do not
>>assume you can run any kind of production Java code on OBSD. You can't
>>-- it's not nearly production ready.
>>
>>Again, this is my opinion, but it is a somewhat informed one. Use
>>FreeBSD or Linux instead.
>
>
> Then be honest and say ``use sun iron, run java on solaris''. :-p
>
>
Heh. Well, Java runs well enough on Linux and FreeBSD (though the
latter is still not "production" [at least it's native now]) that more
than a few vendors support it. I know we have several largish European
customers who ask us to continue to certify our client-server app on
their fave distro. We QA against SuSE, RedHat and (soon) Debian. A
FreeBSD certification against the native JDK (as it firms up) is under
discussion.
An aside: yes, it sucks we can't certify against the Linux kernel, which
is what Linux really is. Each distro has it's own wrinkles in the
supporting libraries and services that we have to treat each one as
distinct for the purposes of test coverage. Sucks to be us.
I think Linux is past the point where it is the poor cousin in the Java
world. It is one of the reference platforms for Sun and is available as
one of the target platforms for weekly snapshot builds of Tiger.
Some Big Bad Companies (*cough*IBM*cough*) have been checking in some
very Java-friendly patches to the Linux Kernel lately, and it shows.
There is idle talk that the Linux release of Tiger running on decent
IA32 hardware will out-perform Solaris running on a modest Sun box.
Anyway, I'll go out on a limb here and say that OpenBSD is not intended
or expected to be a modern application development platform. I'll crawl
out on the limb a little further and say that most application
developers will recognize this as obvious. This is not a dig. OBSD
does what it does very, very well. And it's a great kernel hacking
platform, which is nothing to sneeze at.
I don't want my edge boxes to run Java. I want them to run over
script-kiddies. At my company, we develop *on* a variety of platforms.
We *use* OpenBSD to get that work done.
Well, I deftly stayed somewhat on-topic there, didn't I?
-- cm
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