Re: Linux, BSD, and Unix are fundamentally insecure.

From: Dariusz Kuliński / TaKeDa (spam_goes_here_at_takeda.tk)
Date: 09/11/04


Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 20:45:49 -0700

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:23:10 -0500, Dave Uhring wrote:

>> On 10 Sep 2004 11:38:39 -0700, Mike Cox wrote:
>>> Linux's/BSD's/Unix's flaw is that it allows people to boot from the
>>> boat loader into a shell without requiring the root password.
>> Ok so you gave example of badly configured Linux machine.
> The Linux loader, lilo, can be configured with a password. But that still
> would not stop some cracker from booting from CDROM, mounting / and
> removing root's password from /etc/shadow and /etc/lilo.conf, then
> re-running lilo.

It looks like you don't understand what I'm saying.

>> What about BSD and other Unixes which you're talking about?
> No such OS, including Windows, is immune to root compromise when some
> cracker has console access.

I don't know what do you mean by console, (I guess like most people you
assuming that access to console is equal with sitting next to the
computer).
Well that's not always true. For example I have my FreeBSD configured to
have console on serial cable, so console could be even in different room.
If I mark console as insecure, there is no way you could do anything
without knowing root password, because you don't have physical access to
the computer, you just have access to console, no way to change bios
settings or inserting floppy, cdrom or removing hard drive.

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