Re: "Test Driving Linux" Released by O'Reilly
From: Bill Vermillion (bv_at_wjv.com)
Date: 05/26/05
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 01:25:01 GMT
In article <mailman.2.1116953080.27287.sco-misc@lists.celestial.com>,
Bill Campbell <bill@celestial.com> wrote:
>On Tue, May 24, 2005, Bill Vermillion wrote:
>>In article <f5CdneHNdrPYiA_fRVn-rA@taconic.net>,
>>Tony Lawrence <foo@pcunix.com> wrote:
>>>Brian K. White wrote:
>>>> OK I hate to be a party pooper but think I'm kinda tired of the ads if they
>>>> are going to be this frequent.
>>>>
>>>> I don't mind, actually I appreciate, the occasional advertizement showing up
>>>> here if the product is on topic and not otherwise well known, or
>>>> _infrequent_ informative updates about products even if they are well known
>>>> as long as they are topical.
>>>>
>>>> While many of the O'Reilly books are topical here, and these ads could be
>>>> called informative updates, they are apparently not going to be infrequent
>>>> and I think everyone knows for a long time by now that the O'Reilly books
>>>> exist, where to find them, that new ones are always coming out, and what
>>>> their average usefulness is.
>>
>>>And I'm getting annoyed by how much the quality of O'Reilly books has
>>>deteriorated. I'm not saying they are publishing worthless junk now,
>>>but I think their standards are not what they used to be. Just my
>>>opinion, but it used to be that if I saw an O'Reilly title on a subject
>>>I wanted to know more about, I'd just buy it. Now I pick it up and look
>>>through a few chapters to see if it's worth the money. Often it still
>>>is, but not always. Maybe it's always been that way and things look
>>>more idyllic in hindsight..
>>A lot of that has to do with the way the world of computers has
>>changed. O'Reilly started publishing when computer books were few
>>and far between - and I still have a couple of the Nutshell books
>>with the spiral binding and brown cover with a nut.
>You have a spiral binding? My brown cover versions of ``Managing
>UUCP and USENET'', ``Using UUCP and USENET'', ``Reading and
>Writing Termcap Entries'', and ``Programming with Curses'' are
>all simply stapled. All but the ~Managing UUCP...'' are 1985
>copyrights, and that one is 1986. The price on the cover from
>InfoPro Systems is $8.00 for one book, $7.50 for 2-10, and $7.00
>each for more than 10 books.
I guess maybe you'd call it a plastic comb binding. And it has the
title printed on that plastic. That's the Managing UUCP and
Usenet. I have another brown nutshell book but I can't put my
hands on it at the moment.
>>It's a fourth priniting of Managing Usenet and UUCP printed in
>>1987 - with it's original price sticker of $18.00 still on the
>>cover. You certainly got a lot of bang for the buck in those
>>days. It listed all 9 of their Unix books.
>...
Buying books was easier then. There weren't that many choices :-)
Bill
-- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
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