Re: Where to find SCO Termlite?
- From: "Logos" <tyler.style@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 16 Jun 2006 15:42:01 -0700
Actually, Termlite sucks and his recommendation was the epitomy of helpful
and on-topic, along with about 200 other possible good ones.
Termlite may well suck, but how do I know that based on a pitch for
another product? It would only have been on topic if he could have
pointed me to a download site for Termlite as well. It didn't address
THAT question at all. If he had pointed me in the right direction, and
then added some comments about another emu, tha would have been fine.
But I get quite enough ads in a day via email and browsing already! To
me, a one line pitch for another product without addressing the
original question falls into the spam category, not advice...
Myself, it depends how much effort you want to exert and/or how much clue
you have or want to be responsible for having.
I want to exert pretty much zero effot, and I don't really need much of
a clue (luckily for me, as I am obviously not a SCO UNIX adept).
Actually I would like to telnet in via a DOS command prompt, but the
termcap doesn't work for some needed function keys that are required by
the app. (for everyone who is about to jump on me for using telnet: I
don't need ssh, as this is on a purely internal network)
PuTTY is completely free and can be made to work perfectly.
It just takes setting several options in it's config, and then those options
are stored in the windows registry so it's a little inconvenient copying the
working setup from one pc to another.
You can do it though, you can export a registry branch from regedit and then
import it on a new machine.
Really? That would be ideal. My quick experiments with putty showed
that the termcap problem persisted. The apps require the delete and
function keys to work in a certain way. What registry hacks does one
use to emu SCO ANSI in putty?
The users all need those certain features all the time. (run-program escape
code, good passthrough printing, 100% automatic/preloaded configuration
launchable right from a web page)
Most of our emus are for straight data entry. Period. All the extra
features go to waste. We already have a bunch of Facetwin licenses
(from said contractor), and they are way too pricey for my tastes. We
have 30 liceneses. We need 5 five licenses now, and I want 5 more for
future growth - that's $1450. So why not just use something crappy and
limited that still gets the job done? I don't need flexible or nifty
in this instance, I just need text input and screen display. My only
problem is the SCO ANSI thing.
FacetWin's server daemon also doesn't heartbeat the client. So when the
clients connection breaks, the server often never knows it which causes all
kinds of problems from locked database records to processes that race
consuming all cpu when they go headless like that. (trying to read for input
I guess, it is usually the filepro "runmenu" command that races like that)
Good god. You know what filePro is??? It's what we're using here. The
other reason that I want something crappy/free is that we are moving to
a web interface, and I don't want to shell out cash when we're
migrating in a few months anyway.
So we also use AnzioLite or AnzioWin a lot, especially on Linux boxes. Which
We already have some AnzioLite, and I'll take those over Facetwin (ten
for $400) - but as I said it's only for a few months so I don't really
want to buy any licenses.
In the long run, given how much FacetWin seats cost and how many seats we
currently use, and the rate at which we are growing, and how we dont want
the user to have to deal with terminal emulator license codes or serial
numbers, we have decided to simply pay someone to hack 3 smallish changes
into PuTTY. For roughly the cost of our current existing FacetWin licences,
we'll have our own emulator that's free and unlimited forever after that.
Oh. Damn. Well, I guess that means I won't be finding out what those
registry hacks were after all. :(
The installer for Termlite is right on your own sco box in a public share
provided by (built into) visionfs, and termlite only works when that share
is up & working, or possibly it's just the installer that needs it, it needs
to see a licence file on the server and it has to match up with something in
the client. There are probably 50 ways for file & print sharing to be
screwed up on a pc even when the server and the network in general are fine.
Add to that, visionfs being the suckiest of the 3 main choices (visionfs,
facetwin, samba) is more likely than most to be down for various reasons.
I don't want it for SMB, just for emu. Another person said that we
should be able to install the emu w/o visionfs if that's all we wanted
it for, but they certainly weren't an expert. I would have gone with
Samba over FacetWin for SMB myself, but that wasn't a decision I was
involved in. (I wouldn't have gone for SCO to begin with; I would
have found some nice simple Linux distro to use that I could google for
help without turning up 2.7 million hits on lawsuits and bitter rants)
I don't think I've ever used Alphacom, but given all of the above, I would
take his recommendation without any hesitation and that's also why I didn't
feel a need originally to chime in with my own personal recommendation which
would have been AnzioLite.
Any recommendation from someone who can say (we use it on sco boxes) is a
good one and better than futzing with termlite.
It still didn't address my question. I didn't give much backstory, I
admit, but then all I wanted to know (and still want to know) is where
I could snag a copy of Termlite so I can try it and see if it meets our
So now you know more than you ever wanted to know about terminal emulators
and the 101 unsuspected ancillary issues that (should) go into choosing one,
especially in concert with SCO boxes.
You did not really need to know all that and I'm sure you don't care, and
that is fine, you do not need to and not knowing all that doesn't make you
ignorant, but, since you didn't know all that stuff, that is why you asked
for help. You got it. What I generally say in that situation is "thank you".
Thanks, actually. There was some interesting new info and suggestions
in your post - unlike that of moncho, who just pitched some product
without any other content. To me, that's spam - how can I tell the
difference if all there is 1 sentence response saying 'buy this'?
Rather like someone posting to a Linux forum and having someone just
post back "Your problem is that you need to run Windows."
And I DO appreciate the time you took to respond and the breadth of
your explanation, as I rather like learning such things. Tho I still
don't know where I can snag a copy of Termlite. :) It may very well
be in a share somewhere on our server, but I'm no closer to knowing
where than before! All I can tell is that our Skunkware CD isn't
Windows readable. In case it's not obvious, I have little to do with
our SCO server; I use it like a person uses a car. And there is no
good way to learn about it, as I am not about to use a production
server creatively customized by a contractor to experiment and learn
Try it, then when it doesn't work, _then_ you get to complain it was bad
advice, and maybe not then depending on the details.
There was nothing to try... I didn't receive any advice on my actual
question: "where I can find a copy of Termlite to download?" I
suspect that there isn't anywhere, since googling didn't turn up much,
which is why I posted here hoping someone would know. Alas, I am
likely hooped and will probably have to get those AnzioLite licenses
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