Re: Did you hack into my UNIX server Bible Bob?

From: Bible John (john.doggett_at_x-files.gov)
Date: 06/02/05 

Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:29:18 -0700

In article <d7muki$3s1$2$208.20.133.66@netheaven.com>,
 Bruce Barnett <spamhater113+U050602082349@grymoire.com> wrote:

> Bible John <john.doggett@x-files.gov> writes:
>
> > Not saying that you did, but you said my website would be down soon, and
> > today it has been down. It may be a server problem, but it also seems
> > down when I connect with other isp's. Maybe its a glitch, or maybe you
> > were involved, as you said my websites would be down soon. Perhaps you
> > sniffed my unsecure telnet connections.
>
> Try to ping the system. This will tell you if it's up.
> If not, try "traceroute" to see if the routes to your server are up.
> If you can't traceroute, then it's not a server problem.

Thank you Bruce. MacOSX should have this stuff built in this time
(unlike the pre OSX systems). I should learn more about network
troubleshooting. I have an IT degree, but I enrolled before the
Internet was widespread, so networking, and internet network
troubleshooting was not required of me at that time. A indepth
knowledge of DOS and MS office was, but DOS is dead today, and most IT
people I know, do not have an indepth knowledge of Office. Times have
changed. However I could buy a 200LX and get DOS up and running again,
or PocketDOS on my Jornada 720 and get back to 6.22. But thats another
story. I am saving your email, so in the future I need help.

>
> If ping works, try to telnet to port 80 - the web server.
> If you are connected, the web server is on.
>
> > Unix techies, is it possible for one to shut down my webserver from the
> > public, yet allow me (at this time) to FTP and ssh in?
>
> I don't understand your question, but probably yes. One can set up
> firewall rules to block everything except for SSH traffic from one
> address - yours. But that's not a shell question.
>
> > OSX users, should I be using ssh instead of telnet for security?
>
> In general, yes. Sniffers are not easy to use against others, unless
> you compromise a system used by the other person.
>

I figured out how to use ssh from the OSX command shell, and I paid for
a ssh client for my Jornada 720. I wont pay for one on my Windows 98
laptop, since I rarely ever use it to shell. But a general rule of
thumb should be to avoid Telnet at all costs.

> >I
> > believe we have a firewall here, or does it not matter?
>
> All systems should be defended in depth. That's usually a
> network-based firewall (external), AND a host-based firewall (on your
> machine). I don't know about OSX, but on Linux, you can use
> iptables/ipchains.

OSX as a built in firewall tab. Its really a much nicer Os, over the
pre X systems. Unfortunately I will need to repurchase some hardware
and software that did not transition over from OS 9.

>
> > If so, how can
> > I successfuly use SSH from the unix shell, instead of having to launch a
> > separate 68K ssh app?
>
> you use the command "ssh" - if it's not on your machine, find a copy
> of openssh and install it. It's open source, so it runs nearly everywhere.
>
> >Telnet works from the shell, but ssh does not for
> > some reason. I'd rather use the built in shell, over a slower classic
> > ssh app.
>
> I don't know what this means. I'm not an OSX person. ssh is an
> external app, and not built into the shell. If you mean native versus
> 68k emulation mode, that's different. There should be no reason why
> you can't find a native version of (open)ssh.
>

Classic apps are apps written for the pre Unix based OS X mac os.
Whatever kernel apple was using before OSX is what is called a classic
app. I did figure out how to use the built in ssh client. Its nice
that osx has all this built in. Something that could not be said of
earlier systems.

> >
> > Thanks..
> >
> > John
> >
> >

John

> > From: Bible Bob <biblebobnos...@biblebob.net>
> > Newsgroups:
> > alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.reli
>
> [snip]
>
>
> Please don't top-post. Edit your posts to trim unnecessary stuff.
> That's the polite thing to do. Also - I don't think your questions
> have much to do with shell programming, which is where I saw your
> posting. 

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