Re: Linux poised to shape software and society

From: believer (believe_at_believer.org)
Date: 08/26/03 

Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:26:28 +1000

Greg Menke wrote:
> believer <believe@believer.org> writes:
>
>
>>That's the point. It's more complex than a house and yet you say:
>>"There is no intelligence involved in how it existed."
>
>
> I say "Why invoke intelligence?" It is not so far a demonstrably
> necessary component of the operation of the universe, particularly
> when the intelligence so proposed is defined by a 2000 year old
> multiply-edited, multiply-translated, multiply-reinterpreted document.

The next thing you will tell me ... your computer had no intelligence
when it existed. It was just an accident.

> >>
>>So where are the pre-Crambrian rocks that shows fossils of life before
>>the Crambrian period ?
>>
>>Why is that, all of a sudden, there was a burst of life at the
>>Crambrian period ?
>
>
> Chaos breeds all sorts of phenomena on all sorts of scales. If you
> want to say some Creator touched a spot and caused the beginnings of
> life, thats fine, but please don't beat everyone else over the head
> with it.

Tell that to Peter Karlsson, who beat everyone else over the head
combined with profanity.

>
> Please don't mistake me, I don't mean to say all religion is crap- but
> some of it sure is. Religion has a lot to say about humanity and
> being human, but it can't say much of anything useful about math &
> physics and chemistry.

Oh . you mean like the water system described in Ecclesiastes 1:7, long
before scientists understood it ?

... or why God commanded the Jews to have the babies circumcised on the
8th day ( to prevent excessive bleeding )?

>
>>>OTOH, if you were to argue that some deity X created the single-celled
>>>organisms, then abandoned them to their fates, I might have some
>>>sympathy.
>>
>>He did not abandon them to ther fates ... People abandon Him.
>>He made it clear to the Jews the consequence of disobedience.
>
>
> Oh please. I think you should consider updating your dogma, this kind
> of stuff was old and tired hundreds of years ago.

God never changes ... only man does.

>
> Gregm
>

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