Re: SOS! is there a "nohup" for graphical interface output?

From: walala (mizhael_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 10/19/03


Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:15:24 -0500


<Michael Vilain <vilain@spamcop.net>> wrote in message
news:vilain-698A3D.11102519102003@comcast.ash.giganews.com...
> In article <bmuhmg$rqt$1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>,
> "walala" <mizhael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I need your help.
> >
> > I am a student who do research using Exceed to access Sun workstation in
our
> > school to use Cadence EDA software. Due to Microsoft's security hole,
they
> > frequently roll-out new security updates.
> >
> > The system manager at our school has a software to automatically
download
> > and push those new updates to our computer. The problem is: it
auto-restarts
> > my PC... while I am running Cadence software remotely using Exceed...
> >
> > This month I have a bunch jobs killed in this way by the new security
> > updates automatical restart! One of them I had runned for 6 days and it
was
> > killed. I am very angry about this!
> >
> > I know "nohup" can make sure that the process is running even if logout.
But
> > how about Cadence software which has graphical output.
> >
> > Imagine I use "nohup icfb", where "icfb" is the Cadence EDA software
that I
> > am using, it has a graphical output. Then my computer was restarted, and
> > then I relogin, restart my Exceed, the "icfb" process is still there,
but
> > its graphical interface is gone...
> >
> > By the way, "icfb" is strange that it cannot be used "nohup icfb &"...
> >
> > What can I do now? Please help me!
>
> Your admin is doing his job and you a favor. Have you tried contacting
> him to see if you can coordinate these updates. Unless he's doing them
> in fire-fighting mode, you could agree to a schedule. That way you'd
> know that he pushes updates on Sunday morning at 1am and you'll be
> disconnected from the network.
>
> In regards to your remote X sessions, setting them up to stay around if
> the controlling host terminates would be a Bad Thing(tm). X is sorta
> designed on the network connections between client and server being
> stable and this not happening.
>
> Alternately, you could run your sessions from a MacOS X or Linux system.
> They both have X on them and would be immune to the updates your admin
> is pushing.
>
> --
> DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee...
>
>
>

Dear Michael,

Thanks for your answer. You are absolutely right that the admin is doing
good.

But here is my situation: my professor has no money to buy me a workstation
or a second PC to install Linux. Also it would be difficult for me erase my
current PC's Windows system and change everything to Linux. There are some
utilities that only available in Windows.

I did talk with our admin. They suggested me to unhook network connection
while doing long simulation, thus avoid update and auto-restart.

Now the problem comes back to X-session that can be interruped and resumed:
since "unhook the network" and "auto-restart" are the same problem that I
lost connection to the remote workstation.

> In regards to your remote X sessions, setting them up to stay around if
> the controlling host terminates would be a Bad Thing(tm). X is sorta
> designed on the network connections between client and server being
> stable and this not happening.

How to setup the Exceed, or my SSH, or SecureCRT and/or the remote session
to stay around while the connection is lost temporally?

Thanks for your help,

-Walala



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