Re: backup server software

From: matt (h2o_rider_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 04/06/04 

Date: 5 Apr 2004 16:23:40 -0700

Dom <dom@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:<406F84A8.6030208@nowhere.com>...
> "Michael Vilain " wrote:
> > In article <Xns94BF370F368C4h2oriderhotmailcom@68.6.19.6>,
> > matt <h2o_rider@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"Colin B." <cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> wrote in
> >>news:406c5eab@news.nucleus.com:
> >>
> >>
> >>>matt <h2o_rider@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I have roughly 30 servers running 5.6 that I want to backup up to a
> >>>>jukebox (L1000/E450). Unfortunately, the servers are running some
> >>>>proprietary software and I can not get approval for testing of any
> >>>>3rd party client software. So, are there any servers that use
> >>>>Solaris resident tools to perform backups? Right now, they are
> >>>>backed up to local tape using ufsdump and ontape for Informix. Any
> >>>>help will be greatly appreciated!
> >>>
> >>>Let me make sure I understand this: You have a decent sized server
> >>>environment, you have a tape library and backup server, and you can't
> >>>get approval to test (and therefore use) 3rd party software? It sounds
> >>>like someone in management is on bad drugs or a power trip to me.
> >>>
> >>>Anyways...
> >>>
> >>>On the one hand, it could be argued that all backup programs out there
> >>>use Solaris resident tools. Well, Netbackup is a bit of a stretch
> >>>because it uses gtar instead of tar, but it's not that far off. Amanda
> >>>uses tar. Legato uses...I can't remember, but hey--it's (branded and
> >>>sold as) a Sun product, so it should be allowed.
> >>>
> >>>I can't imagine any reason for the restriction you mentioned. Can you
> >>>give us more details?
> >>>
> >>>Colin
> >>
> >>Tell me about it....
> >>Basically, the vendor - who purchased the 3500's, configured and
> >>installed all the software (Informix, Solstice EM applications, and
> >>bunches of prop. apps) and sold it back to us for X times the price (can
> >>buy a house with the ammount of money) - will not support their
> >>application if we install any non-approved software. Legato works, I
> >>already tested. But I cant run it in a production enviornment. There
> >>are many $'s in this, and in the long run, I value my employment ;-)
> >>
> >>Guess I am stuck with the techs doing daily local backups -
> >>sometimes....
> >>
> >>I was hoping there was a was a solution that can be executed by cron (no
> >>client daemon) that will ufsdump/ontape to the e450/jukebox. But with
> >>30 clients completing in a few hours..... Root on the client will need
> >>to be able to restore data too. That may complicate things a bit.
> >
> >
> > You're pretty much restricted to ufsdump/ufsrestore using local tape
> > drives from your description. Unless you install Fibre cards and the
> > jukebox is connected to the SAN, I don't see a way to distribute the
> > backups among your systems.
> >
> > I think you'll have to live with this and wait for your next job to do
> > some enterprise stuff with backups.
> >
>
>
> On the E450/L1000 install Sun's Utilization Suite (aka. SAM-FS).
> On the E450 with the L1000 create a NFS share, of the SAM-FS filesytem.
> On your 30+ servers mount that share.
> Tar the files you want to backup to the shared folder.
> Back on the E450 configure Utilization Suite to copy the tar containers
> to tape.
> From each of the servers, you will be able to bring back any day's
> "tar" that is on that share.
>
> (this works best if you have at least 1 gige between all servers.)
>
> I've simplified the steps a little bit, RTM Utilization Suite, or
> contact you local Sun Storage specialist and discuss Util' Suite.
>
> Dom

Thanks Dom-
Just did some quick reading on SAM-FS and it does mention client
software installation (with patches if necessary). Also there's a
limitation of only 10 clients per server. But pretty interesting,
none the less.

My thoughts now are looking at doing a remote ufsdump with gzip (which
is approved) compression remotely to the backup server disks. Then
let the server software uncompress and archive it to tape. I just
need to figure out recovery strategy so the client can restore data...
-matt

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