Re: Linux Advocates: Only bad thing is the license!

From: Peter Jensen (usenet_at_pekajemaps.homeip.net)
Date: 12/21/04 

Date: 21 Dec 2004 13:31:30 GMT

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Joerg Schilling wrote:

>> I don't think people are complaining that Solaris isn't GPL, but more
>> that it's not a very free license by *any* definition. The GPL, BSD,
>> MPL, Apache, and lots of other licenses *are* free, though not all
>> are GPL compatible. Consult this list of the most common licenses
>> for details:
>
> First: There is no OpenSolaris license yet. There is a CDDL draft but
> nobody told you that this will be used for OpenSolaris.

Until they say otherwise, that's all they've revealed. They may still
go with a better license, but knowing Sun, they won't. Just the way
they hold on to Java will give you some indication of how they'd rather
have something almost die than release control of it.

> Second: The CDDL gives you more freedom than the GPL, so what is your
> point?

I think Linønut already told you otherwise, but why don't you explain
*how* it's more free than the GPL, and how *you* define freedom.

> Comclusion: If the CDDL cannot be called "free", the GPL is definitely
> not a license that could be called "free".

Depends on where you view it from. Greedy corporations can't just
incorporate GPL stuff and make it proprietary, so it's not so free for
them. That's a GoodThing(TM). If you improve on the work of others,
they get rewarded by getting the new improvements. Everyone eventually
benefits. Not like the one-way street known as CDDL.

> P.S.:
> Peter Jensen is violating the Nettiquette by changing the
> Newsgroups line.

Actually, no. It's common netiquette to set a Followup-To when
cross-posting. Particularly in this case where a know troll tries to
start a cross-platform flame-war. I set the FUT to COLA because that's
where trolling usually belongs. I'm trying to save comp.unix.solaris
from the inevitable flame war.

However, I followed the advice of RFC 1855 and added the appropriate
warning of the FUT at the end of the post (just like in this post),
despite the fact that your news client should warn you. However, you
did *not* follow netiquette, because you did not warn that you
reintroduced cross-posting. Of course my client told me, so I could add
back the correct FUT.

> As I don't read the other Newsgroup, I will definitely not cancel the
> duplicate article that is only caused by Peter Jensen's impoliteness.
> Sorry for the inconevenience.

You're just trying to divert attention away from the fact that you made
a dumb mistake. Grow up and get a news client that tells you when FUT
is set. Slrn is good at this. It also won't let you post anything that
violates common netiquette, without a fight. You're the impolite one
here, it would seem.

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