Re: Linux Advocates Fear Solaris 10.
From: Peter Köhlmann (Peter.Koehlmann_at_t-online.de)
Date: 01/08/05
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Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:21:39 +0100
begin Rich Teer wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Liam Slider wrote:
>
>> RedHat isn't the only enterprise level Linux out there. There are
>
> Perhaps, but what market share do the alternatives have?
>
Not really the point. BTW, tell us that NOVELLs market share (they own SuSE
now) is to be neglected. SuSEs market share (for the enterprise market) in
europe was higher than redhats, btw.
After all, you have made a lot of much dumber statements lately
>> Linux also supports a wider range of other processors. Lots of hardware
>> Sun doesn't touch.
>
> For now, yes.
For now meaning the next decades?
>
>> Yes, the bit they "are allowed."
>
> And that portion will likely grow as encumbered bits are replaced
> by those that aren't.
>
"Likely" as in no one knows anything. Just whats needed to build on
>> Except that, on the x86, Solaris has always been a poor performer.
>> There's
>
> You really ought to try Solaris 10. Performance is W A Y up...
>
Well, it is not difficult to speed up a snail on tranquilizers
BTW, weren't you one of those solaris-cretins who stubbornly told us that
"Slowlaris" is *real* old now? And now we should try vers10, because *then*
it is really no matter any more?
Sounds like windows: try 95/98/98Se/ME/NT4 ad nauseum. Always the same
promises: *This* time we got it right...
>> also the fact that Open Solaris will not be as feature rich, and likely
>> not as capable, as the commercial product. Also, there are no particular
>> reasons *to* deply Solaris either...compared to, say, Novell.
>
> You don't think observability (like kernel crash dumps, Dtrace, etc.)
> are important to enterprise users? Well, those that are familiar with
> such concepts...
>
Those that are familiar with linux rarely, if ever crashing...
>> Solaris on x86 has always been a poor performing dog. Especially when
>> compared to Linux. I don't see there being a huge rush to X86 Solaris
>> from Linux.
>
> You might want to check out more recent info. On the whole, S10's
> performance is equal to, or better than, Linux on the same hardware.
Sure. That is because so much people actually believe marketing hype.
> And it STILL scales way more than Linux. There's only so much you
> can do with a bunch of low end machines; some problems demand a big
> SMP machine that runs well. Does the Linux kernel offer near-linear
> scalability on dozens of processors?
>
Well, show us the Solaris machine in the Top-Ten of the fastest
supercomputers. We might believe you then.
Hint: The fastest one, second fastest and fourth fastest in that group run
linux. The next supercomputer built to smash first place will run linux
You might try some really convincing arguments the next time
-- If you had any brains, you'd be dangerous.
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