Re: The SUN Marketing Department is WORTHLESS.

From: Alan Hargreaves - Product Technical Support (APAC) (Alan.Hargreaves_at_Sun.COM)
Date: 02/26/05


Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:58:07 +1100
To: Mike Cox <mikecoxlinux@yahoo.com>

I normally don't repply to such obvious trolling, but there is some of
this that I can't let pass without comment.

Apologies to both the cola and cus communities for potentially feeding
the troll.

Comments inline.

[Mikes ran't about Sun marketing screwing up by not releasing the media
for Solaris 10]

Mike, which would you prefer? Release the O/S on the website as soon as
it is ready and get to work producing the media for availability early
March; or hold the whole thing back until the media is ready?

I know which I prefer.

Just because *you* don't wish to do the download does not mean that
nobody else does (note the more than half a million downloads in the
first three weeks!). If you want to wait for media, that is your
perogative. It seems to me that you were under the misapprehension that
we will not be delivering media. Please consider that misapprehension
corrected. Media will be available early March.

> Of course the SUN marketing really screwed up the naming on JAVA. JAVA
> naming is so convoluted that my Boss would prefer to go with .NET because it
> is easier to remember. He doesn't like being corrected when he can't
> remember the proper version and gets JAVA 5 confused and thinks it is later
> than the 1.4 version.

Ummm, it *is* later. This is, of course your bosses perogative. I would
regard it as a little short-sighted.

>>Or team up with some people who find your work interesting and
>>already have a Solaris system.
>>
>>Or release it under the BSD license so others can port it to Solaris
>>if they want. Same thing with GPL.
>
> No, this command will be released under the CDDL. It will be available on
> my website and on Blastwave.org if they want it. I don't want the linux
> advocates to have bragging rights by having such a great command for linux.

Ummm I suspect you haven't read CDDL very well. There is nothing
stopping anyone taking a standalone command and making it available
under another system; be it proprietry, GPL or pretty much anything.

>>Or just refuse to develop for something because it hasn't been
>>made open source according to your timetable and specifications,
>>which is of course your decision.
>
> I'm not refusing to release anything. My command will be released to my
> website soon, and to Usenet under the CDDL. Hopefully my understanding of
> Solaris 10 will be enough to get it to operate. If Solaris follows the
> POSIX standards, I'm certain that my command will run.

If?

If we didn't we would have a lot of *very* upset customers.

> P.S. Why is the OpenSolaris.org site so ugly? Can't SUN get a graphics
> artist to make it look at least a bit professional (not that kernel.org is
> any better)?

Maybe because we are spending the money on the engineering work to get
it out?

alan.

-- 
Alan Hargreaves - http://blogs.sun.com/tpenta
Kernel/VOSJEC/Performance Engineer
Product Technical Support (APAC)
Sun Microsystems


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