Re: Is ZFS ready for production?



On 2006-08-21 20:59:40 +0100, Gary Meerschaert <gary.meerschaert@xxxxxxxxx> said:

In the Auto industry they are needed for recall, liability, and product updates. Files are kept for 25 years after the last production, which can be 50 years after the initial design concepts. (Think the old GM G vans) Files (and tapes) are kept in a mine. All drawings are transfered to vellum or mylar, as there is no telling if the computer equipment will still be available to read back very old tapes.

I agree with the `you need to be able to restore individual files from a long time ago' argument. But I suspect (or hope) that most people with these requirements are using some backup/archiving product which does all the fancy indexing etc so you can tell when the file last changed etc etc. The only one of these I've had significant experience with (NBU) used tar as the underlying archiver I think (and will probably thus gleefully throw out zfs ACLs etc, though they'll fix that in due course I hope).

I see snapshots more as a mechanism to allow point-in-time backups, and to make synchronising systems over high-latency links much easier. The former is important for backups, the second for DR etc.

--tim

.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Mag Fullcoat questions
    ... Didn't know it made it to production. ... Without the audio the TV program was toast. ... So John took the tapes and found residual 15.75 ?? ...
    (rec.arts.movies.tech)
  • Re: Incendiary
    ... Backups are routinely saved over a sliding window of time with "expiring" ... tapes recycled for the current backup. ... It is a separation of powers fight. ... The congress is acting within their rights (and ...
    (alt.smokers.cigars)
  • Re: OS recommendations/Aging software issues
    ... > Now I am about to deploy a linux server and I am trying to figure out ... Keep a spare machine (preferably identical to the production one) up to ... each batch of updates causes no trouble, apply them to the production box. ...
    (Fedora)
  • Re: tbu solutions
    ... I agree with Jeff, up to 30 days out is too much for me. ... backups is to have them going off site ASAP after the backup, ... >> I am using SBS 2003 Premium and have installed BrightStor ... >> month to rotate used tapes and add new ones. ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
  • Re: ADRDSSU protection [was:RE: Using FTP to send loadlib]
    ... The nature of our environment is such that in the unlikely event of a data-center-wide disaster we are not legally required to have near-continuous availability and zero transaction loss, and for the most part our corporate end users could re-enter critical data from primary documents and accept that some server platforms and applications might not be fully functional for up to 48hrs. ... All application tapes are on duplexed virtual tapes with a vault copy. ... The physical volume backups are made over the next several hours, and this is all coordinated with the tape library run to insure that all duplex HSM and VTape physical tapes relevant to the system status at the daily point-in-time backups make it to the vault with the daily DR dumps. ... This gives us assurance that we have off site everything that would have been accessible to all applications as of that point in time and can recover to that point. ...
    (bit.listserv.ibm-main)