Re: Choose solaris for ultra10



Hi guys!

First of all I would like to thanks everybody for the really nice
answers. ;)

If the 9GB is too small, I can put the two 40GB HDD in some kind of
raid software, maybe with ZFS, but I don't know how it will run on
this old machine, I already use it on a x86 hardware with 2GB RAM on
FreeBSD, and it's really resources hungry, although the hardware are
so different that I can't compare each other. And this warning about
the slow IDE controllers on the U10, seems to be true since I had
already heard about it. :/

About the RAM I'm waiting the machine arrive to check how is the
memory bank set, I'm considering to buy another 512MB.

I was thinking if solaris can support SATA-PCI controllers, perhaps it
can be a solution for the problem of the space and the speed of the
IDE controllers, but, I think, I wouldn't be able to boot with this
disks. If it works, I still got stuck to IDE or SCSI disks to boot.

I'll pay attention to the CDR that I'll use to install the machine,
they have to be 650MB media.

How it seems to be an general agreement that solaris 10 will run OK,
I'll first try it, I've just bought this machine to learn solaris in
its own hardware and sun land. I'm quite excited waiting it arrive!!

When it comes, I'll update this thread with my experiences.

Leonardo Marques.

On Jun 13, 12:31 am, ThanksButNo <no.no.tha...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 12, 6:00 pm, Leonardo Marques <surf...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Hi guys,

I´ve just bought a Sun Ultra 10, and I´m still waiting to it arrive
through mail, so I was wondering wich version of solaris will run
better on this old hardware. I would like to use solaris 10, but I don
´t know if with this version, the old hardware will get too slow. So
guys, which version do you would use? The older solaris version still
have security patches?

My ultra specs:
- 440MHz
- 512MB RAM
- 9 GB IDE (I have another two 40GB IDE harddrives)

Thanks in advance,
Leonardo Marques.

Buy another 512MB Ram, they're not expensive.  Unless you've
already maxed out all four DIMM slots, in which case it might
not be worth it.  See, if there are two 256MB dimm's, all you
need to do is buy two more.  If there are four 128MB dimm's,
then you'd have to replace all four of them. Your money, your
call.

Buy 80 or 120GB harddrives, same reason.  They're cheap
and you can always load more databases or something.

Brandon said not to bother with ZFS, very true.  I ran a
few tests and there was absolutely no ZFS configuration
that wasn't significantly slower than UFS.  Of course, you
might want to play around with it, just to learn how the
commands work.  But even then, ZFS is really designed to
be used with a lot more than just two disks, and I don't
think you can connect more than two, unless you buy a
SCSI card for it (which will cost more than the machine).

Richard said 9 GB is a little small.  A LITTLE small?  Look,
you needed another doorstop, right?  Yank that bad boy out
and take it out to the range for target practice.  It might
be interesting to see a hard drive splatter its guts all
over the place!

WARNING

You will *probably* have difficulty loading the CD's from
Sun.  Depending on how old it is (they might all be too old)
it will NOT be able to read these modern new-fangled CD's
that hold 700MB.  You may actually need to locate some old
650MB writable media (good luck!) and burn the CD images
to those.

Maybe I just did something wrong, but even when I installed
a modern CD-Rom, the hardware still refused to properly
and reliably read 700MB CD's.  It had an internal segment
map that matched 650MB CD's, but only partially lined up
with 700MB CD's.  So reading disk 3 was nigh impossible.

Now, you could probably get around this by installing disk 1
(which I could get working) then copy the other disks over
the LAN from another machine.  I didn't try this (I bought
some 650MB CD-R's, which are getting harder and harder to
find), but in theory it should work.  Alternately, you might
try getting an earlier version of Sol10 that isn't quite as
big on the disks, then try to "update" it to the latest.

Finally, be warned: Ultra 10 has a notoriously slow IDE
interface.  The next time you want a cheap Sparc computer,
I would suggest something else.  Maybe an Ultra 60, or one
of the rack models that are getting cheaper (but rack models
are *noisy*).

Have fun with it!  Learn what you can, and don't try to
do any production work on it!

:-)

.



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